Legislature(2007 - 2008)BARNES 124

05/09/2007 01:00 PM House RESOURCES


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HB 177-NATURAL GAS PIPELINE (AGIA)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:01:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GATTO  said that there  is a question regarding  HB 177,                                                               
the  Alaska Gasline  Inducement  Act (AGIA),  since  it left  the                                                               
House  Resources Standing  Committee.   He  relayed  that the  CS                                                               
currently  in  the  House  Finance   Committee  is  missing  some                                                               
amendments  that  were included  when  the  bill left  the  House                                                               
Resources Standing  Committee.   He said that  he spoke  with Co-                                                               
Chair Chenault of  the House Finance Committee and  it was agreed                                                               
that  Representatives Roses  and  Seaton, who  advocated for  the                                                               
amendments   during  testimony   in   House  Resources   Standing                                                               
Committee,  will be  invited to  testify  in front  of the  House                                                               
Finance  Committee.    He  recalled   that  the  House  Resources                                                               
Standing Committee had reviewed "a  stack of amendments that were                                                               
badly written,"  and then passed  the amendments to  Don Bullock,                                                               
Division  of   Legislative  Legal  and  Research   Services,  who                                                               
incorporated all the amendments into a new CS.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GATTO  continued,  stating  that  the  House  Resources                                                               
Standing  Committee  reviewed the  CS  and  removed some  of  the                                                               
amendments.   He allowed that  all of the committee  action, with                                                               
one exception, was passed with a  majority of those present.  The                                                               
one exception  was a 4-4 vote,  which would not have  allowed the                                                               
amendment to be put into the  bill, and conversely, did not allow                                                               
the  amendment to  be  removed from  the bill.    He offered  his                                                               
belief  that  the  administration   has  now  changed  the  House                                                               
Resources Standing Committee version of  HB 177, so that this new                                                               
version will need to be reviewed.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:04:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES commented  that an analysis of  the new bill                                                               
indicates  that  most of  the  committee  work  is ignored.    He                                                               
expressed  his  belief  that   the  administration,  in  essence,                                                               
bypassed the  House Resources Standing  Committee.   He expressed                                                               
his  strong  concern   with  this  process,  as  a   lot  of  the                                                               
committee's work is  not included in the CS.   He emphasized that                                                               
all of  the work is important  but that almost all  of their work                                                               
is ignored, and that this is unacceptable.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG  stated that this is  always a concern.                                                               
He allowed that  each committee has the right to  amend, and then                                                               
the  next  committee  has  the  right to  adopt  the  version  it                                                               
chooses.   He posed that  it would  have been beneficial  for the                                                               
administration to recognize the work of the committees.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:06:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GATTO noted that the  House Resources Standing Committee                                                               
reviewed  the House  Special  Committee on  Oil  and Gas  version                                                               
"with  every intent  to do  it right."   He  emphasized that  the                                                               
committee was right to incorporate the amendments into a CS.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CODY  RICE,  Staff to  Representative  Carl  Gatto, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, offered  his belief that  a work draft has  not been                                                               
publicly adopted by the House  Finance Committee.  He stated that                                                               
there   are   multiple   versions  of   potential   work   drafts                                                               
circulating, one  of which is  the version the co-chair  of House                                                               
Finance Committee intends to adopt.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:08:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GATTO  said he  has seen  three versions,  including one                                                               
that  was "red  letter,"  but  these did  not  include the  "blue                                                               
letter"  version  that  was  moved out  of  the  House  Resources                                                               
Standing Committee.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICE  reported that  there are  several versions  prepared by                                                               
several  different   groups,  including  at  least   one  version                                                               
prepared by  the administration.   He relayed  that conversations                                                               
with  people involved  in this  process indicate  that the  House                                                               
Finance Committee  work draft contains substantive  policy issues                                                               
that will  be removed.   He  stated that  Representative Chenault                                                               
has committed  to allow members  of the House  Resources Standing                                                               
Committee to address the substantive issues that were withdrawn.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:10:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  said  that he  and  Representative  Roses                                                               
probably have  the same  version as  the Senate  CS.   He offered                                                               
that talks  with the administration  indicate that there  are two                                                               
separate  work drafts.   He  offered his  belief that  the Senate                                                               
Finance Committee  version is not  the same as the  copy proposed                                                               
to the  House Finance  Committee.  He  expressed his  belief that                                                               
the House  draft includes the House  Resources Standing Committee                                                               
deleted  amendments,  and that  there  will  be an  amendment  to                                                               
reinsert them.  He allowed  that both versions will highlight the                                                               
versions that  each finance  committee prefers.   He  opined that                                                               
the House  Resources Standing  Committee work  will be  shown and                                                               
referenced in the work draft.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GATTO posed  that the  amendments are  included in  the                                                               
print, so  that they can be  addressed to possibly add  back into                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:12:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  offered his belief that  the House Finance                                                               
Committee version will show the edits, additions, and deletions.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICE said that this is his understanding as well.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES commented that this  "makes it a little more                                                               
palatable."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:13:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  said that he has  received permission from                                                               
Speaker Harris  to invite the House  Resources Standing Committee                                                               
to join  the House  Special Committee on  Fisheries on  a special                                                               
fall  field hearing  to address  HB 134,  Representative Edgmon's                                                               
bill  regarding  the  water and  fishery  resources  impacted  by                                                               
Pebble Mine.   He explained that  the group will be  visiting the                                                               
mine site, and holding public hearings in the impacted villages.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GATTO remarked that the visit will be very helpful.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Resources  Standing Committee  meeting was  adjourned at  2:17:30                                                             
PM.                                                                                                                           

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